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Post by PN-00 on Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:56 am

PureEvil wrote:demand stronger engine. the game cant even stand with psp map models.

I agree, also tested it, especially if the pc has 4gb ram or lower.

InfinitasImpetum wrote:i considered building a new engine based off of windom or trying to get windom in an existing engine.

the problem is windom is using some obsolete things.  

the tool for converting robo models and hod files to fbx could be used to get the animations of windom into an existing engine.  
If that is the case, time will come that modder will forcefully stop working coz simply the tools are not available.

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Post by InfinitasImpetum on Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:24 am

I think i am going to try and do a pseudo port of windom into unity after i get my current tool done for another game.

i won't port windom files to work in unity.  i am going to take the stuff and convert to work in a new system based off of windom's design.  gameplay will be kept.

the one good thing about having the parts in separate files is it makes swapping pieces out easier. i am going to keep this.

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Post by Endymion on Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:28 pm

If you say like this then it really worth keeping the parts in separate files.

Anyway, you say, you will make an identical copy of Windom XP on a more stable engine, right? And then you can continue modding it as you did with Windom XP. But the scripts and model file extensions won't bother you anymore. This sounds great.

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Post by InfinitasImpetum on Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:15 pm

actually i plan on changing the format of stuff.  the scripts would be hard to make compatible.  

i can keep the hod files as is.  i would have to ditch the script files for something else. there is no way to make squirrel script compatible with unity. another issue is arm aiming though this i can look at sv. since the code for aiming the arm seems open.


the final goal is to get it to feel similar in gameplay as windom xp did.

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Post by Endymion on Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:43 pm

Maybe I sound a little strange, but why don't you adjust the engine to fit more the Gundam vs. games, especially the Extreme series' gameplay? It isn't a secred Windom XP and the Gundam vs. games have gameplay differences mostly because the *different playerbase*.

*Which fan needs what, hehe.*

The ultimate goal is the Gundam for sure, since you, and everyone else on the forum is more into that metaseries. If you want to use some of Windom XP files, then I guess the already created mods also will work in an instant on that engine. Fitting them to the original gameplay of the Gundam vs games also makes it easier to adjust the mods easier in terms of speed and such. Smile

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Post by InfinitasImpetum on Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:33 pm

I thought you didn't like the gundam vs game style of play?

i think i might end up creating something new but using windom system as a basis for its creation.

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Post by PN-00 on Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:14 am

I thought you will create a gundam game engine Very Happy
But still, it will be nice and i look forward to that on the time that you will release it.
For sure, It will take a long time..

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Post by Endymion on Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:12 am

I didn't like it, but this isn't about me. I have a game to play, now everyone else needs one. Twisted

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Post by InfinitasImpetum on Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:29 am

PN-00 wrote:I thought you will create a gundam game engine  Very Happy
But still, it will be nice and i look forward to that on the time that you will release it.
For sure, It will take a long time..

actually, i am trying to create a game like windom xp or extreme vs thats moddable.  custom engine or in a current existing engine doesn't really matter.  just the end results.


i did start a project already but i wasn't using windom xp as a basis.  i could just continue it and use windom xp as a basis for modding.


well, came to 1 conclusion i need to build that tool to convert a robo(hod,models)->fbx and fbx->robo(hod) cause there needs to be a way to edit the animations.  i can then use this as a basis for a new animation system based upon hod design for the game.

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Post by PN-00 on Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:38 am

It will be nice if in the case it is done.
Actually I'm looking for the time that modders (hopefully that time, I will be one of them) can make real whip animation (example epyon whip,Reginlaze Julia whip mode of Iron blooded orphans).

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Post by Endymion on Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:21 pm

The function is in the game for sure. The hair of some mechs, and the ornate on the Anthurium's head function like how a whip would move. Also the Aura Blade of Cymbidium is similar but it also affected by the targeting, not just pure movement impulse.

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Post by InfinitasImpetum on Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:08 pm

i have decided to skip the hod stuff and build the animation system for the game directly.

i maybe should create a new thread for the project.

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Post by Endymion on Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:53 pm

Even more work, but it will be more stable.

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